Generally, the less beefier, YET JUST AS LEAN (low body fat %) natural and tested women competitors in competitions that test for drugs are much less masculine in face and voice. Voices can also signal whether someone is interested in you. Does the female body produce testosterone when one bulks up to that extent? The women are the most blatant users, since the impact of introducing HGH and testosterone-like drugs turns them into men-ish freaks. Practically speaking, picking up on these types of cues could allow someone to decide whether a person they are talking to might be attracted to them or not. (Her body was also much less developed than current day.) Steroid use in bodybuilding is pretty much an open secret, but very few bodybuilders would want to admit it in print because it’s illegal. In these ways, the non-verbal characteristics of voices can play a significant role in signalling health, fertility, attraction and potential infidelity, to name a few. They did some extreme closeups of Joanna and I couldn’t see any evidence of her shaving her face. No doubt these people are exercising alot, but also dieting a lot, and the kind of exercise they do makes me wonder if they are even generally more fit than your regular frequent-gym-attending jane or joe. Do the male bodybuilders now claim to be all-natural? Why kill your business voluntarily? I love it when that happens. However, like all drugs different side effects make themselves known in different degrees or not at all. (Google if you want to see pictures). Juan David Leongómez is Assistant Professor of Evolutionary Psychology at El Bosque University. First, at the Olympia level, you cannot compete without steroids or HGH (human growth hormone). They deny using, but are not subjected to tests, giving them free range to all drugs. Meáin Náisiúnta Seirbhíse Poiblí na hÉireann, How vocal tone and pitch signal a person's characteristics, By Viktoria Mileva, University of Stirling and Juan David Leongómez, El Bosque University. This is because of the crash-dieting combined with extreme training they do for several months beforehand, which lowers their body fat to concentration-camp-victim level. so here science is failed.?. Women who judge men with lower-pitched voices as more likely to cheat also prefer those men for short-term rather than long-term partners. From what I could tell, none of them had facial hair or shadows; but their faces were manly. (And I’ve asked her outright and she says no.) Walking around with needles filled with Sustanon, decadurbolin, test, Equipose and Winstrol is all the proof I need. RTÉ is not responsible for the content of external internet sites. :smack: So, while one might suspect body fat %'s that are very low to contribute, in contests where the demands have caused women to go below 3% AND caused the menstruation to stop, one does not find the deep voices and thickening of masculine features one finds when one looks at Olympia level female competitors. According to medical science, there is no method to increase his\her genital parts, so why female bodybuilders are developing enormous clit & labia. I would think steroids would cause hair growth, not just nominally masculine features. Deeper voices have been linked to having more surviving children and grandchildren, higher testosterone and lower stress hormones, and longer-term survival in men… A woman’s voice changes during her menstrual cycle when she is not using contraceptive pills. So we currently don’t know what cues the participants used to judge whether the voices came from cheaters. Did they show any pictures of her before her bodybuilding days? (Maybe they do; I don’t know.). I know of a very good woman athlete in her 50s who looks young for her age but she has the same guant look which makes her look a bit masculine to me. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Female bodybuilders and resulting masculine facial features. I’ve injected steroids in past Mr. America contestants and a winner , a Mr. Pennsylvania contestant or two, and have watched the exchange of sale between body builders and people running the shows. On the other hand, deeper-voiced men are also rated by women as more likely to cheat on a partner and as less trustworthy in general. Participants were played recordings of people speaking and given no other background information about them, and successfully rated cheaters as "more likely to cheat" than non-cheaters. Hers was measured at 2.6% just before the competition, which I would not have thought possible on anyone, let alone a female. Their voices deepen, their their faces square off, and they get electrolisis to remove hair, and they watch their hairline recede. I guess you have to grab needles and jam them into the asses of various folks who are trying to get into the pro-ranks. It is not only women who can pick up on men’s vocal cues of good genes and likelihood to cheat, and use it to their benefit. Even if they are tested now, there are ‘masking’ techniques and there are ‘designer’ drugs that cannot be detected very easily…if at all. Take too many and you fail your piss test. In one clever study, participants were asked to judge the voices of individuals who spoke in a different language to attractive or unattractive potential partners or competitors. Her voice was low, as were the other women’s too. Joanna would make a quite handsome man herself, and when she was shown with makeup, she and every other woman shown looked like men in drag. But the next time you find yourself listening to and judging someone’s voice for these subtle cues, remember that they are judging yours, too. According to the show, when it’s just before competition they are not only at their weakest, but bordering on becoming dangerously ill. Deeper voices have been linked to having more surviving children and grandchildren, higher testosterone and lower stress hormones, and longer-term survival in men. For example, Donald Trump’s voice can signal to you that he is a man, and that he has passed middle age. Interestingly, women were better at this task than men. She was just so adament about not taking anything, although I can understand why she’d lie on TV. Those women with hormonal conditions or simply with high levels of testosterone will be ahead of the field before they even begin to participate and thus more likely to begin to participate. A recent study suggests that they can. You don’t even have to take large doses to experience this nasty side effect. This means that none of these factors affected the results. Even without listening to the words, when you hear someone speak you can pick up important information about them from characteristics such as how loud or deep their voice is. Perhaps unsurprisingly, men find women’s voices most attractive when the women are near ovulation (most fertile), than at other times of the month. That’s what I get for not previewing! Assuming that she truly doesn’t take steroids, what is it about extreme bodybuilding that would cause all the women to have masculine facial characteristics? Viewed realistically, there are drugs at that level…almost impossible to even think of competing w/out them. Then they fast (no solids or liquids) for the day before the competition, and then stuff themselves with sugar right before going on stage, because it makes their veins pop out. A near simultaneous posting with the guy above you. Pro-bodybuilding can’t police itself, because it would be shutting itself down. All of them - so you’d have to assume if it were steroids, that ALL of them take them. I don’t doubt that there are legal substances they claim help them out, but that’s not all the top pros are using. I’m not sure if anyone else did. The recordings were taken from people with voices of similar pitch and attractiveness, who were of similar size and shape, and had similar sexual histories (aside from cheating).