I have found the Royers to be very sensitive to impedance. I've also not used the two other mics you metion above but I find a lot of those cheap ribbons (sub $400) are muddy and not very good. I combine mine with an Audio i5 but mostly my recorded guitar sound is the FH alone. RTP-35 Toroidal Output Transformer for Ribbon Microphones, Pictures Of Mic'ed Up Drum Kits In The Studio. I'm also considering the sE VR1 or VR2 or the Cascade Fathead II w/ Lundahl transformers. I guess people do, but I won't take the chance of popping the ribbon. When I record electric guitars through an amp I always use a combo of a dynamic mic, usually a 57 or a 609, and a ribbon mic. I am looking at recording electric guitar,vocals,soprano sax, and flute. I have one hung permanently about 12" in from of a Fuchs 1x12 Mini cab, and I never think of replacing it. I'm thinking of picking up a ribbon mix to pair up with a 57 for a guitar cab as well as to sometimes use on an acoustic guitar. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. The Royer pairs well with UA610, Summit Pres, Millenia and 1073 at 300 ohms. Every time I've tried both on an instrument, the Coles wins. I am very surprised somebody found it to be thin on guitar cab - never tried it there. What I mean by "sparse instrumentals" is that there will be very few parts and the mic needs to be able to have some fullness. Royer ribbon microphones are not usually affected by the presence of phantom power. I have to say that the Coles take high EQ very, very well! I own a pair of VR1s and a Fathead II. My usual mic is a Cascade Fathead which gets great results, I prefer the version with the upgraded Lundahl transformer but the stock version works well too. I have also used Royer 121 and vintage RCA 44, but i've not A/B'd the 3 on any sources. Works equally well on acoustic guitars. Royer R-121 Cascade FatHead II Royer R121 vs. Coles 4038 vs. Shure KSM 313 vs. AEA R84: Ribbon Mic Drum Overhead Shootout - Duration: 6:11. soundpurestudios 23,117 views FHII Lundahl all day long. I have also used the cascades regularly and I think they're great and if I didn't have the Royer I'd be perfectly happy using them. For your stated applications I would go with the Royer R121. The Cascade Microphones Fat Head II is also known as: Fathead II. I tested the Royer dBooster mostly with gentle spoken voice into a Royer R10 placed about nine inches away, feeding a GML 8304 preamp. Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is, Please help the original poster by using the. The RCA KU-2A is really amazing too! The Coles is haunting on piano. Lee Dickson's firing situation with Clapton. I love both mics, but neither work well for a lot of vocals. The AEA N22 will sound good on all those sources and be more usable on vocals and flute with its extended top-end frequency response. Pete Thorn reviewed one a couple months ago and has been using it on recent stuff as well. Ribbons mic shoot out on clean, crunch and distorted guitar tracks. I am looking at either purchasing a Coles 4038 or Royer R-121 and it is a hard decision! The Royer is excellent and would be my go to mic for cabs. Again be very careful to check phase between the two mics and experiment with positioning, small movements can make a big difference. You can use the back side for a brighter sound and it takes EQ well. Yummy. However my favorite ribbon for electric guitar that I've used personally is a Beyerdynamic M160. The Coles sound great with a really pleasant top end, but sometimes they can be a little too "pingy" on drums .. i.e.. the stick attack can get overbearing. I just prefer a blend of an LDC over the player's right shoulder (for a righty) and a SDC pointed at the neck of the guitar from about 18-23 inches away from the soundhole. Like others said, watch the phase. The Royer is excellent and would be my go to mic for cabs. Both are great mics, I personally prefer the Coles a little bit more because it has more of the coloration we usually associate with ribbons. If you want to use a ribbon with your acoustic, the SE has more high freq response. BTW I never use a ribbon on acoustic, not that there's anything wrong with it. I have the Beyerdynamic M160. I especially like it paired with a SDC at the 12th fret. As much as I like R-121's on guitar, I would recommend the R-122 active as it is a little more refined and "HI-Fi" sounding which may be beneficial in your application. The Royer pairs well with UA610, Summit Pres, Millenia and 1073 at 300 ohms. Is the Coles really a step up from R-84 or should I look elsewhere? Just a quick note that I already have an AEA R-84 and man do I love that thing! For close drums and brass, is a tie for me. Do tonewoods really matter in building a guitar. The Coles has a very distinctive vintage vibe and is rather dark. I don't use ribbons on vocals. Just wanted to throw the Sterling ST170 in the mix as a newer inexpensive ribbon option. While it sounds great on drums, tenor and bari saxes, I don't think you will like it on soprano or flute. Thye main reason the 4038 has a fast transient response, which in turn gives it its 3D quality, is because the mass (thickness) of the ribbon is particularly low relative to other high quality ribbon mic ribbons. I don't own one but I managed to get my hands on one a couple of times and its really a magic bullet when blended with a dynamic mic, especially if you use a cloudlifter in line with it. I have gotten drastically modern to vintage, bright to dark just by using different impedances on the mic pre. they take EQ really well though. As for the Beyer M160 I haven't had the pleasure! Royer's legend is akin to the idea that Yamaha NS-10s were good monitors because, "if it sounds good on the NS-10s, it'll sound good everywhere.". The Cascade Vin-Jet with a Lundahl transformer is also worth considering. Definitely check one out before you buy anything else. I've never gotten to use the Royers which are supposed to be one of the best ribbons for guitars so I can't comment on that one.